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Sir John Gurney V (d. 1408) Notes
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Sir John Gurney V is a collateral, not a direct ancestor: the eldest son of Edmund Gournay (G23) and elder brother of the direct ancestor Robert Gournay (G22). The line did not pass through him — his only son died under age — so the inheritance moved sideways to Robert’s son Thomas I (G21). His material also appears, in its bearing on the direct line, on the G23 and G22 companions; this file is his own consolidated treatment. The full text of his History of Parliament biography is held at sources/corpus_supplement/John-Gurney-d1408-The-History-of-Parliamentx.md.
Career and the Arundel-to-Lancaster pivot
John’s legal career was under way by 1382, and within four years he had been retained as steward of the Norfolk estates of Richard Fitzalan, earl of Arundel — the magnate from whom the Gurneys held their manor at Harpley; the connexion probably lasted until 1402.[1] The Arundel tie drew him into high politics: he gave the earl staunch support during the Lords Appellant’s seizure of government in 1387–88. When Richard II took his revenge and Arundel was executed in 1397, John was reinstated on the Norfolk bench in July 1397 but, judging the danger, purchased a royal pardon in spring 1398 to cover his earlier adherence to the Appellants. He then aligned with the Lancastrians: in October 1398 he became a trustee of the estates of Sir Thomas Erpingham, who was leaving to join the exiled Henry of Bolingbroke. When Bolingbroke took the throne as Henry IV in 1399, Norfolk returned John to the Parliament that acclaimed the new king, and he was appointed sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk (3 November 1399 – 24 November 1400) while that Parliament still sat. He sat again for the Coventry Parliament of October 1404, served as escheator, and was named to a long series of royal commissions of inquiry (murder 1387, theft, maintenance, piracy, the 1406 insurrection at Bishop’s Lynn, and more).[1]
The 1392 murder of Edmund Clippesby — the lawyer who had served with John’s father Edmund as joint steward of the duchy of Lancaster estates — bears on John: he was himself threatened with death if he tried to prosecute the killers, who were servants of Bishop Despenser of Norwich (no friend of John of Gaunt).[1]
John’s own military/affinity footprint includes letters of attorney for service in Gascony/Aquitaine on 20 October 1394, in the retinue of John of Gaunt, then duke of Lancaster and Aquitaine (The National Archives C61/104, m. 7) — a direct continuation of his father’s Lancastrian client relationship.[2]
The Heylesdon marriage and inheritance
John married Alice Heylesdon, daughter and eventual sole heir of John Heylesdon, a wealthy London mercer and former alderman. The foundation document is John Heylesdon’s will, dated London 14 April 1384 and proved at the Husting on 20 July 1384: it names his daughters Alice and Margaret, leaves Alice his tenements in Norwich and — “under certain conditions” — his Westcheap warehouse called the “Crowned Seld” (la Selde coronata), and endows two perpetual chantries at Hellesdon church.[3] Margaret died before her majority, so Alice inherited the whole: the manors of Hellesdon and Drayton, the two chantry advowsons, the Norwich houses, and the Crowned Seld. In 1392 John and Alice collected the £300 from the London authorities that had been allotted to her late sister.[1] The settlement is the larger reality behind the single “La Selde Coronata” warehouse that the older family tradition highlighted.[1]
John and Alice did not keep the core Heylesdon manors long: in 1395–96 they conveyed Hellesdon and Drayton, with the advowsons, to John Winter and partners — recorded in Walter Rye’s feet-of-fines calendar (Part II, entry 262) and reported from three parishes (Heigham, Drayton, Taverham) by the eighteenth-century antiquary Mostyn John Armstrong.[4][5] The three-fold Armstrong cross-attestation, naming “John Gournay and Alice his wife,” is decisive evidence that Sir John V’s wife was Alice Heylesdon — settling the conflict with the Wansey pedigree’s “Alice Bavard” (see the G23 companion).
Landholdings
| Place | Notes |
|---|---|
| West Barsham, Norfolk | Principal seat; the Wauncy inheritance that came through his mother Katherine. |
| Harpley, Norfolk | Held of the earls of Arundel; the family’s old north-west Norfolk manor. |
| North Barsham, Hardingham, Denver (Norfolk); Depden (Suffolk) | Part of the Edmund Gournay estate. |
| Hellesdon and Drayton, Norfolk + advowsons | From the Heylesdon marriage; sold to John Winter 1395–96.[4] |
| Heigham and Taverham, Norfolk | Heylesdon-cluster interests; advowson presentations 1398 and 1401; held two fees at Drayton/Taverham of the lord Morley in 1401–02.[5] |
| “La Selde Coronata” (the Crowned Seld), City of London | Westcheap warehouse from the Heylesdon inheritance.[3] |
| Houghton, Norfolk | Bought a half-share of the Nerford manor in 1399, adjoining his Harpley estate.[1] |
| “Loundhall,” Saxthorpe, Norfolk | Enfeoffed 1406 with Erpingham, Wynter, Berney, and Shelton.[1] |
| Holm Hale, Norfolk | Held the first court and lete in 1401 as co-feoffee with Edmund Oldhalle, John Drewe (rector of Harpley), Edmund Belleyeter (burgess of Lynn), Robert Botekesham, Thomas Brigge, Clement Herward, and others.[6] |
The crown’s 1409 inquisition found he held nothing of the king in chief; his estate at death was reckoned at eight manors in Norfolk and one in Suffolk.[7][1]
Death, the inquisition, and the failed succession
John was reappointed sheriff on 15 November 1408 and died on 4 December 1408 (the History of Parliament date, anchored to the escheator’s writ; Daniel Gurney’s reading of the inquisition gives the Tuesday before St Nicholas, 5 December).[1][8] The inquisition is calendared in the Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. 19 (entries 489–94; The National Archives C 137/70/6): writ 16 February 1409; inquisitions at East Rudham, Holt, and Attlebridge; heir Edmund his son, aged ten; and the decisive finding that he “held nothing in Norfolk” of the Crown in chief — the family’s manors were all held of mesne lords, which is why no substantial royal record of the estate exists.[7]
His only son Edmund “died sine prole [without offspring], and probably under age” not long after his father; with the senior line extinct, the whole estate passed by right of blood to John’s nephew Thomas Gournay I (G21), son of John’s brother Robert (G22).[8] John’s own will was registered at the Norwich Consistory Court but cannot now be found: the register Harsyke ends in 1404 and the next register (Hyrnings) does not begin until 1419.[9]
Standing among the Norfolk gentry
John moved in the leading knightly circle of his county. Sir John Howard’s will left him a new silver cup with a cover, alongside Sir William Beauchamp, Sir John Marmion, Sir Stephen Hales, Sir John de Burgh, and Sir Richard Sutton.[10] The History of Parliament life of Sir Robert Berney independently places John in the Lancastrian Norfolk bloc — fellow shire knight of 1399, Erpingham co-trustee, and co-feoffee in the Saxthorpe/Loundhall circle (Erpingham, Wynter, Berney, Shelton).[11] A further, more local feoffee company appears at Holm Hale in 1401, where John held the manor’s first court and lete alongside Edmund Oldhalle, John Drewe (rector of Harpley — the family’s own benefice), Edmund Belleyeter (a Lynn burgess, the same civic circle his father Edmund G23 served as counsel), Robert Botekesham, Thomas Brigge, and Clement Herward — a company that ties directly to the Harpley and Lynn corners of the family orbit.[6] Not every relationship was friendly: early in 1408 he began building a bridge over the river Wensum at Hellesdon, and the citizens of Norwich, fearing lost toll revenue, obtained a royal writ suspending the work.[1]
Downstream: Alice’s later life and the Heylesdon feud
Alice survived John by at least twenty-five years. She sold “Loundhall” to John Wynter to pay his debts, married twice more (the Fitzalan retainer Sir John Wiltshire, d. 1428, and then Richard Selling, esquire), and in 1433 sold the bulk of her Heylesdon inheritance to Sir John Fastolf KG.[1] That sale is the upstream event for the Heylesdon → Fastolf → Paston → Heydon chain that drew John’s great-nephew William Gurney IV (G19) into the 1472 Saxthorpe contest — treated in full on the G19 companion.
Sources Consulted
- History of Parliament Online, “GURNEY, John (d.1408)” — full text at
sources/corpus_supplement/John-Gurney-d1408-The-History-of-Parliamentx.md. [HoP] - Daniel Gurney, Supplement, Note 121 (pp. 793–794): the inquisition post mortem. [DG-Supp]
- Daniel Gurney, Supplement, Note 118: the lost will and the 1404–1419 register gap. [DG-Supp]
- Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. 19 (entries 489–94; C 137/70/6), British History Online. [CIPM]
- Reginald R. Sharpe, Calendar of Wills … Court of Husting, London, Part II, pp. 241–243 (John Heylesdon’s 1384 will). [Husting]
- Walter Rye, A Short Calendar of the Feet of Fines for Norfolk, Part II, entry 262 (Hellesdon/Drayton conveyance). [Rye]
- Mostyn John Armstrong, History and Antiquities of the County of Norfolk (1781), vols. 6 and 9. [Armstrong]
- Francis Blomefield, History of Norfolk, vol. 6, pp. 7–14 (Holm Hale, South Greenhoe). [Blomefield]
- Soldier in Later Medieval England Online Database (1394 Aquitaine letters of attorney). [medievalsoldier-database]
L. S. Woodger, “GURNEY, John (d.1408), of Harpley and West Barsham, Norf.,” in The History of Parliament: The House of Commons 1386–1421, ed. J. S. Roskell, L. Clark, and C. Rawcliffe (1993), History of Parliament Online; full text at
sources/corpus_supplement/John-Gurney-d1408-The-History-of-Parliamentx.md. Source ID:hop-gurney. ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎Soldier in Later Medieval England Online Database: John Gourney, letters of attorney for Gascony/Aquitaine, 20 October 1394, in the retinue of John of Gaunt (The National Archives C61/104, m. 7). Source ID:
medievalsoldier-database. ↩︎Reginald R. Sharpe, ed., Calendar of Wills proved and enrolled in the Court of Husting, London, A.D. 1258–A.D. 1688, Part II (London: J. C. Francis, 1890), pp. 241–243, Roll 113 (1): will of John Heylesdon, London, 14 April 1384, proved 20 July 1384; daughters Alice and Margaret; the “Crowned Seld” (la Selde coronata) in Westcheap to Alice; two perpetual chantries at Hellesdon. Full text at
sources/corpus_supplement/husting-wills-london-vol2-john-heylesdon-1384.md. Source ID:husting-wills-london-vol2-sharpe. ↩︎ ↩︎Walter Rye, A Short Calendar of the Feet of Fines for Norfolk, Part II (Internet Archive
ashortcalendarf00ryegoog), entry 262: John Wynter, John Yelverton, Richard Creyk, and Thomas de Lexham v. John Gournay and Alicia his wife, of the manors of Heylesdon and Drayton and their advowsons. Harvest atsources/corpus_supplement/norfolk-feet-of-fines-gurnay-entries-rye.md. Source ID:rye-feet-of-fines-norfolk. ↩︎ ↩︎Mostyn John Armstrong, The History and Antiquities of the County of Norfolk, vol. 9 (Norwich, 1781), Freebridge Hundred — Heigham next Norwich, Drayton, and Taverham parish entries (the 1395–96 conveyance to John Winter; advowson presentations 1398 and 1401; two fees of the lord Morley at Drayton/Taverham in 1401–02). Source ID:
armstrong-norfolk-1781. ↩︎ ↩︎Francis Blomefield, History of Norfolk, vol. 6, South Greenhoe: Holm-Hale, footnote 6: “In 1401 John Gurnay, Edmund Oldhalle, John Drewe, rector of Harpele, Edmund Belleyeter, burgess of Lyn, Robert Botekesham, Thomas Brigge, Clement Herward, and other feoffees, held the 1st court and lete.” Source ID:
blomefield-norfolk. ↩︎ ↩︎“Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry IV, Entries 452–501,” Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. 19 (London: HMSO; British History Online), entries 489–494 — John Gournay (Gurney), writ 16 Feb. 1409, d. 4 Dec. 1408, heir Edmund his son aged 10, “held nothing in Norfolk”; The National Archives C 137/70/6; www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol19/pp170-185. Source ID:
bho-ipm-henry-iv-vol19-gournay-johnv. ↩︎ ↩︎Daniel Gurney, Supplement to the Record of the House of Gournay (1858), Note 121 (pp. 793–794): inquisition post mortem of Sir John Gurney V, taken at Holt market before John le Straunge, escheator, 10 Henry IV; heir Edmund his son aged ten, who “died sine prole, and probably under age”; the successor was John’s nephew Thomas. Source ID:
dg-rec-supp. ↩︎ ↩︎Daniel Gurney, Supplement (1858), Note 118: “after Register Harsyke, which ends in 1404, there is no Register until Register Hyrnings, which begins in 1419” — hence John’s 1408 will is lost. Source ID:
dg-rec-supp. ↩︎Mostyn John Armstrong, Norfolk, vol. 6 (Norwich, 1781), South Erpingham Hundred — Sir John Howard’s will leaving a new silver cup to (Sir John) Gurney alongside Sir William Beauchamp, Sir John Marmion, Sir Stephen Hales, Sir John de Burgh, and Sir Richard Sutton. Source ID:
armstrong-norfolk-1781. ↩︎“BERNEY, Sir Robert (bef.1365–1415), of Great Witchingham and Gunton, Norf.,” The History of Parliament: The House of Commons 1386–1421 (1993), History of Parliament Online: John Gurney as Berney’s fellow shire knight of 1399 and co-trustee of Erpingham’s lands. Source ID:
hop-berney. ↩︎